City Manager Unfiltered

City Manager Unfiltered is a podcast by a city manager for city managers. I am your host, Joe Turner, and I’m on a mission to build a community for ambitious city managers. I want to provide you with the career tools and resources to help make you a better executive so you can rack up victories, polish your resume, dominate interviews, land your dream job, and win your contract negotiations. If you are a city manager looking to level up, check out my podcast, City Manager Unfiltered. Hit that subscribe button today so you don’t miss an episode.
Episodes
Episodes



Wednesday Jun 18, 2025
We Carry the Trauma to Our Next Job with Tim Rundel | Ep. 111
Wednesday Jun 18, 2025
Wednesday Jun 18, 2025
We continue our conversation with the always entertaining Tim Rundel in this second installment.
Tim has not just seen a thing or two, he has personally endured some incredibly challenging and professionally traumatic situations. In this powerful episode, he talks about how we as city managers carry the trauma of abuse and betrayal to our next position and that it is quite easy to become "gun shy" or lose your self-confidence.
He opens the interview by recounting a conversation with a peer who has recently experienced a couple of brutal and extremely short tenures. And toward the end of the conversation Tim talks about how we as executives need to value ourselves and appreciate our worth. He says "we're the cookie" and we should not be giving it away.
If you did not get a chance to catch my first interview with Tim way back in Episode 8 of the podcast, it is a must listen. It is one of the funniest interviews I have ever done and in it we talk about his efforts to get a sitcom about a small town city manager made a la The Office Space. You can check that out here: https://www.citymanagerunfiltered.com/e/city-of-weed-sitcom-about-city-manager-life-tim-rundel-ep-08/
SHOW NOTES
Tim Rundel's LinkedIn Profile
Links to Tim's Documentaries:
Brother Valentine: Producer/Director An Oklahoma family is ripped apart after their 15-year-old son brutally murders his older sister in 1974. Controversy swirls around the case after his parents decide to hire a prominent defense attorney to keep him out of jail. https://vimeo.com/147941222
Calls to Okies: The Park Grubbs Story. Executive Producer. In the early 1980's a group of Oklahoma teenagers mastered the art of prank phone calls and became legends. : https://www.shortoftheweek.com/2016/10/03/park-grubbs-story/
The B'CATS (Bryan County Alternative Transportation Society): Producer/Director Venturing into the lives of a peculiar subculture in southern Oklahoma, a former city manager encounters a group of locals who have found an unconventional means of transportation through the use of riding lawn mowers. https://youtu.be/VCuR7oWVYVQ
AAME Waitlist Sign Up Link: https://app.youform.com/forms/f9ulo0uh
AAME JOB BOARD:
The American Association of Municipal Executives has a free job board exclusively focused on executive and senior level local government recruitments. To post a job, go to: https://jobs.aame.org/
SUPPORT THE PODCAST:
Subscribe to my FREE weekly newsletter hosted on LinkedIn. It is called the "City Manager News & Job Board" newsletter and can be found here: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/city-manager-rtrs-job-board-7164683251112992768/
If you would like to support the podcast by making a donation, please use the "Buy Me A Coffee" link.
Please rate and review the podcast on Apple or your preferred platform if you enjoy the show. It helps tremendously. But more importantly, refer your friends and peers to podcast through personal conversations and posts on your social media platforms.
Joe Turner's LinkedIn Page
City Manager Unfiltered YouTube Page - Subscribe Today!
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Wednesday Jun 11, 2025
It Just Takes One to Ruin It with Tim Rundel | Ep. 110
Wednesday Jun 11, 2025
Wednesday Jun 11, 2025
One new council member can turn everything on its head and send you heading for the exits when you are a city manager. Tim Rundel, the former city manager for the City of Weed, recounts his experience with this elected official who also happened to be married to one of his employees.
We talk about the importance of building relationships with your governing body, how elected officials need to police themselves and call out bad behavior in the name of defending their city manager, and how city attorneys are not your friend.
This is part one of a two part series.
If you did not get a chance to catch my first interview with Tim way back in Episode 8 of the podcast, it is a must listen. It is one of the funniest interviews I have ever done and in it we talk about his efforts to get a sitcom about a small town city manager made a la The Office Space. You can check that out here: https://www.citymanagerunfiltered.com/e/city-of-weed-sitcom-about-city-manager-life-tim-rundel-ep-08/
SHOW NOTES
Tim Rundel's LinkedIn Profile
Links to Tim's Documentaries:
Brother Valentine: Producer/Director An Oklahoma family is ripped apart after their 15-year-old son brutally murders his older sister in 1974. Controversy swirls around the case after his parents decide to hire a prominent defense attorney to keep him out of jail. https://vimeo.com/147941222
Calls to Okies: The Park Grubbs Story. Executive Producer. In the early 1980's a group of Oklahoma teenagers mastered the art of prank phone calls and became legends. : https://www.shortoftheweek.com/2016/10/03/park-grubbs-story/
The B'CATS (Bryan County Alternative Transportation Society): Producer/Director Venturing into the lives of a peculiar subculture in southern Oklahoma, a former city manager encounters a group of locals who have found an unconventional means of transportation through the use of riding lawn mowers. https://youtu.be/VCuR7oWVYVQ
AAME Waitlist Sign Up Link: https://app.youform.com/forms/f9ulo0uh
AAME JOB BOARD:
The American Association of Municipal Executives has a free job board exclusively focused on executive and senior level local government recruitments. To post a job, go to: https://jobs.aame.org/
SUPPORT THE PODCAST:
Subscribe to my FREE weekly newsletter hosted on LinkedIn. It is called the "City Manager News & Job Board" newsletter and can be found here: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/city-manager-rtrs-job-board-7164683251112992768/
If you would like to support the podcast by making a donation, please use the "Buy Me A Coffee" link.
Please rate and review the podcast on Apple or your preferred platform if you enjoy the show. It helps tremendously. But more importantly, refer your friends and peers to podcast through personal conversations and posts on your social media platforms.
Joe Turner's LinkedIn Page
City Manager Unfiltered YouTube Page - Subscribe Today!
Note: Page may contain affiliate links. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.



Wednesday Jun 04, 2025
Brian Daily: You're Getting Screwed on Your Property Insurance | Ep. 109
Wednesday Jun 04, 2025
Wednesday Jun 04, 2025
Brian Daily was the first person I ever hired as a city manager and it was one of the most impactful decisions I have ever made in my professional career. He is an amazing, inquisitive public servant who continually seeks to provide value to taxpayers. He is insanely curious and truly embodies the ethos of a "working executive" who is not afraid to roll his sleeves up and do the heavy lifting required of a small town executive.
In this episode, we talk about three major areas of accomplishment as the city administrator for the Kansas community of Medicine Lodge.
Analysis of Property Insurance
Innovative approach to solving a daycare crisis in his community
How asking questions like a three year old about his airport saved taxpayers over a million dollars
Daily is a rising star and you are going to enjoy this episode.
SHOW NOTES
Brian Daily's LinkedIn Profile
AAME Waitlist Sign Up Link: https://app.youform.com/forms/f9ulo0uh
AAME JOB BOARD:
The American Association of Municipal Executives has a free job board exclusively focused on executive and senior level local government recruitments. To post a job, go to: https://jobs.aame.org/
SUPPORT THE PODCAST:
Subscribe to my FREE weekly newsletter hosted on LinkedIn. It is called the "City Manager News & Job Board" newsletter and can be found here: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/city-manager-rtrs-job-board-7164683251112992768/
If you would like to support the podcast by making a donation, please use the "Buy Me A Coffee" link.
Please rate and review the podcast on Apple or your preferred platform if you enjoy the show. It helps tremendously. But more importantly, refer your friends and peers to podcast through personal conversations and posts on your social media platforms.
Joe Turner's LinkedIn Page
City Manager Unfiltered YouTube Page - Subscribe Today!
Note: Page may contain affiliate links. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.



Wednesday May 28, 2025
Social Media Training for Elected Officials with Sam Toles | Ep. 108
Wednesday May 28, 2025
Wednesday May 28, 2025
Picture this scenario. Staff have worked for a year to bring a project or initiative to the finish line. There have been public meetings and notices, multiple discussions at council meetings, and even some news articles published in the local paper.
Out of the blue, a handful of vocal social media commenters start lighting up the city's social media page and local news groups are atwitter as these critics misrepresent the facts of the project and attack the council for not being transparent and seeking feedback from residents. This results in a dozen or more residents attending the next council meeting with four of them attacking the council and staff under the guise of simply seeking transparency.
Then the council, caught off guard and reeling from the "onslaught" of public comment decide to table or postpone the issue. Then they direct the city manager and staff to re-engage the public and seek feedback.
It's demoralizing and time consuming. It sucks the life out of employees.
Sam Toles of CiviSocial joins me on the program to talk about a future initiative aimed at educating and training elected officials about social media, how to interpret criticism, and how to raise these concerns with staff in a healthy and constructive manner. If you are interested in learning more, please fill out this brief survey so we can get your feedback: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdBe7LOFFXi2C_ezW4haJJqU-iPk7_n61sgKelfnLQDDgMK1w/viewform
SHOW NOTES
Claim your FREE copy of "The Social Media Playbook for City & County Managers" at this link: https://civisocial.com/the-social-media-playbook
Sam Toles' LinkedIn profile
Link to CiviSocial website
Sam previously appeared on the following episodes:
Episode 67: Your City is Doing Social Media Wrong
Episode 68: Keyboard Warriors & Social Media Terrorists
AAME Waitlist Sign Up Link: https://app.youform.com/forms/f9ulo0uh
AAME JOB BOARD:
The American Association of Municipal Executives has a free job board exclusively focused on executive and senior level local government recruitments. To post a job, go to: https://jobs.aame.org/
SUPPORT THE PODCAST:
Subscribe to my FREE weekly newsletter hosted on LinkedIn. It is called the "City Manager News & Job Board" newsletter and can be found here: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/city-manager-rtrs-job-board-7164683251112992768/
If you would like to support the podcast by making a donation, please use the "Buy Me A Coffee" link.
Please rate and review the podcast on Apple or your preferred platform if you enjoy the show. It helps tremendously. But more importantly, refer your friends and peers to podcast through personal conversations and posts on your social media platforms.
Joe Turner's LinkedIn Page
City Manager Unfiltered YouTube Page - Subscribe Today!
Note: Page may contain affiliate links. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.



Wednesday May 21, 2025
Sam Toles: The Social Media Playbook for City Managers | Ep. 107
Wednesday May 21, 2025
Wednesday May 21, 2025
What is the purpose of social media and why does your organization have a social media presence?
In this episode, Sam Toles of CiviSocial and I discuss this issue at length and make a powerful case for why every city and county manager should make sure their organization is doing social media correctly. Not only are there personal and professional benefits, but it can help improve employee morale and job satisfaction, retention, and keep your elected officials happy.
Sam is on a mission to help city managers and other public sector executives level up their organization's social media presence. He recently released his new book and podcast listeners can claim their FREE copy by clicking on the link below.
SHOW NOTES
Claim your FREE copy of "The Social Media Playbook for City & County Managers" at this link: https://civisocial.com/the-social-media-playbook
Sam Toles' LinkedIn profile
Link to CiviSocial website
Sam previously appeared on the following episodes:
Episode 67: Your City is Doing Social Media Wrong
Episode 68: Keyboard Warriors & Social Media Terrorists
AAME Waitlist Sign Up Link: https://app.youform.com/forms/f9ulo0uh
AAME JOB BOARD:
The American Association of Municipal Executives has a free job board exclusively focused on executive and senior level local government recruitments. To post a job, go to: https://jobs.aame.org/
SUPPORT THE PODCAST:
Subscribe to my FREE weekly newsletter hosted on LinkedIn. It is called the "City Manager News & Job Board" newsletter and can be found here: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/city-manager-rtrs-job-board-7164683251112992768/
If you would like to support the podcast by making a donation, please use the "Buy Me A Coffee" link.
Please rate and review the podcast on Apple or your preferred platform if you enjoy the show. It helps tremendously. But more importantly, refer your friends and peers to podcast through personal conversations and posts on your social media platforms.
Joe Turner's LinkedIn Page
City Manager Unfiltered YouTube Page - Subscribe Today!
Note: Page may contain affiliate links. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.



Wednesday May 14, 2025
Sacramento Cesspool & Putting Recruiters on Notice | Ep. 106
Wednesday May 14, 2025
Wednesday May 14, 2025
Recent comments attributed to executive recruiters handling the Sacramento, California and Palm Coast, Florida recruitments must be addressed.
A Sacramento Bee article alleged that CPS HR recruiter Pamela Derby has "suggested modifying certain incentives in a potential contract, including supplemental leave and severance, to ensure the new hire does not make as much."
In Florida, Strategic Government Resources (SGR) recruiter Doug Thomas advised the governing body against including a salary range in their job posting and brochure.
Recruiters and recruitment firms that actively seek to undermine the pay, benefits, and contractual protections in the name of advising their clients must be put on notice that there will be consequences. And it is imperative that public sector executives across the country take individual action to communicate these concerns, as well.
SHOW NOTES
Sacramento Bee Article #1: https://archive.ph/ZF1Rg
Sacramento Bee Article #2: https://archive.ph/JIwjd
Flagler Live Article: https://flaglerlive.com/sgr-tale-of-two-bruchures/
AAME Waitlist Sign Up Link: https://app.youform.com/forms/f9ulo0uh
AAME JOB BOARD:
The American Association of Municipal Executives has a free job board exclusively focused on executive and senior level local government recruitments. To post a job, go to: https://jobs.aame.org/
SUPPORT THE PODCAST:
Subscribe to my FREE weekly newsletter hosted on LinkedIn. It is called the "City Manager News & Job Board" newsletter and can be found here: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/city-manager-rtrs-job-board-7164683251112992768/
If you would like to support the podcast by making a donation, please use the "Buy Me A Coffee" link.
Please rate and review the podcast on Apple or your preferred platform if you enjoy the show. It helps tremendously. But more importantly, refer your friends and peers to podcast through personal conversations and posts on your social media platforms.
Joe Turner's LinkedIn Page
City Manager Unfiltered YouTube Page - Subscribe Today!
Note: Page may contain affiliate links. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.



Wednesday May 07, 2025
Part 3: Conducting a Fire/EMS Needs Assessment with Tim Nowak | Ep. 105
Wednesday May 07, 2025
Wednesday May 07, 2025
This is the third and final installment of my three part interview series with Fire/EMS consultant Tim Nowak. The primary purpose of this series is to create an introductory primer and give local elected officials and taxpayers a 30,000 foot level overview of the major issues that must be considered when evaluating fire/EMS service in your communities.
My hope is that city and county managers, fire chiefs, and other public sector executives will find our attempt to break this complex issue down into manageable chunks for your various stakeholders useful in your efforts to facilitate discussions on this topic.
SHOW NOTES
Tim Nowak's LinkedIn page
You can find my previous interview with Tim in Episode 40 here.
AAME JOB BOARD:
The American Association of Municipal Executives has a free job board exclusively focused on executive and senior level local government recruitments. To post a job, go to: https://jobs.aame.org/
SUPPORT THE PODCAST:
Subscribe to my FREE weekly newsletter hosted on LinkedIn. It is called the "City Manager News & Job Board" newsletter and can be found here: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/city-manager-rtrs-job-board-7164683251112992768/
If you would like to support the podcast by making a donation, please use the "Buy Me A Coffee" link.
Please rate and review the podcast on Apple or your preferred platform if you enjoy the show. It helps tremendously. But more importantly, refer your friends and peers to podcast through personal conversations and posts on your social media platforms.
Joe Turner's LinkedIn Page
City Manager Unfiltered YouTube Page - Subscribe Today!
Note: Page may contain affiliate links. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.



Wednesday Apr 30, 2025
Part 2: Fire/EMS Staffing & Deployment Models with Tim Nowak | Ep. 104
Wednesday Apr 30, 2025
Wednesday Apr 30, 2025
This is the second installment of my three part interview series with Fire/EMS consultant Tim Nowak. The primary purpose of this series is to create an introductory primer and give local elected officials and taxpayers a 30,000 foot level overview of the major issues that must be considered when evaluating fire/EMS service in your communities.
My hope is that city and county managers, fire chiefs, and other public sector executives will find our attempt to break this complex issue down into manageable chunks for your various stakeholders useful in your efforts to facilitate discussions on this topic.
SHOW NOTES
Tim Nowak's LinkedIn page
You can find my previous interview with Tim in Episode 40 here.
Link to Chris Mann's GOV360 Podcast
Link to join the AAME membership waitlist
AAME JOB BOARD:
The American Association of Municipal Executives has a free job board exclusively focused on executive and senior level local government recruitments. To post a job, go to: https://jobs.aame.org/
SUPPORT THE PODCAST:
Subscribe to my FREE weekly newsletter hosted on LinkedIn. It is called the "City Manager News & Job Board" newsletter and can be found here: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/city-manager-rtrs-job-board-7164683251112992768/
If you would like to support the podcast by making a donation, please use the "Buy Me A Coffee" link.
Please rate and review the podcast on Apple or your preferred platform if you enjoy the show. It helps tremendously. But more importantly, refer your friends and peers to podcast through personal conversations and posts on your social media platforms.
Joe Turner's LinkedIn Page
City Manager Unfiltered YouTube Page - Subscribe Today!
Note: Page may contain affiliate links. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.

Joe Turner
Born and raised in Southern California, Joe Turner moved to Kansas in 2018 to pursue a career in city management after spending many years working for elected officials and engaged in grassroots advocacy.
As a non-traditional entrant into the field, he brings a unique perspective on city management and local government issues.
However, it has been his ruminations on the evolving professional landscape for city managers and his opinions on contract negotiations and compensation packages that has propelled him to the forefront as a thought leader and influencer amongst peers.
Turner has lamented the lack of advocacy on behalf of city managers as professionals and believes there is a void in this space with respect to advocating for and on behalf of public sector managers, not just the profession of city management.
You can catch up with him over on Linkedin.